{"id":4982,"date":"2025-04-22T16:16:18","date_gmt":"2025-04-22T21:16:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/deathcookie.com\/home\/?p=4982"},"modified":"2025-04-29T16:12:31","modified_gmt":"2025-04-29T21:12:31","slug":"lets-talk-about-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/deathcookie.com\/home\/lets-talk-about-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"Let’s Talk About AI"},"content":{"rendered":"

Generative AI has become a go-to scare topic for slow news days in recent years, and it\u2019s a frequent topic of internet yelling, usually by people with a very limited grasp of how the technology actually works. I\u2019m not going to claim that I\u2019m expert on the topic, but since I\u2019ve actually used AI, I do claim to be more informed than a lot of the people screaming about it.<\/p>\n

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Check out The Blasphemous Temple of Yargolith, which was created with AI and then turned into something publishable by humankind.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Before we get into that though, let\u2019s acknowledge the fact that AI is not going away. Silicon Valley has put too much money into it to let it die on the vine. They\u2019ve also convinced a good chunk of corporate America that it\u2019s the secret to getting rid of all those pesky employees who do nothing but sponge off the company. The people who actually run things have made a decision, so no matter what you think about AI, you\u2019re going to have to get used to it.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s start with the common AI complaint that\u2019s easiest to dismiss: The claim that it will cost people jobs. While this is certainly true, as a person who comes from the first generation of his family to make it to the office job side of the working class, I have to sincerely say, \u201cFuck you.\u201d The same people who whine and moan about AI taking jobs have been silent while the working class has suffered nearly a century of union-busing, downsizing, and outsourcing, so forgive me if I\u2019m not sympathetic. The jobs are going away. Learn to live with it just like us poors did.<\/p>\n

\"Brother<\/a>
Brother Damo, Priest of Theon<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Commercial artist have a right to be worried. Since their work is by nature formulaic and impersonal, it\u2019s going to be the easiest for AI to replace. Since most of them have enough experience with capitalism to know that their jobs are only safe if there\u2019s no cheaper option, many of pass up \u201cThey took our jerbs!\u201d in favor of \u201cThey took our interllectual propertry!\u201d<\/p>\n

At this point they generally reveal that they\u2019ve studied IP law just as thoroughly as they\u2019ve studied AI. The most moronic among them will find an AI render of, say, a woman in a red jacket who vaguely looks like Trinity form The Matrix. Then they\u2019ll put it next to a drawing they\u2019ve done of a woman in a red jacket who looks vaguely like Trinity from The Matrix and scream \u201cPlagiarism.\u201d If AI programs were the copypasta machines that people claim they are, you\u2019d think by now one of them would have produced something that meets the legal definition of plagiarism.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s a testament to the power of human stupidity that they don\u2019t see the obvious flaw in their argument: if the definition of plagiarism were as broad as they claim, practically everything would be plagiarism. Even the dude who drew the stunningly original image of Trinity in a red jacket would have to pay royalties to whoever owns the copyright on pictures of a woman with short dark hair and sunglasses wearing a red jacket (probably Disney).<\/p>\n

\"King<\/a>
King Yak, Kobold Chieftain<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

A few try to claim that it\u2019s not about AI \u201ccopying\u201d particular images, it\u2019s about AI copying an artist\u2019s \u201cstyle.\u201d Again, that\u2019s not how any of this works. Style is not something you can copyright. You might be able to trademark it as trade dress if it\u2019s consistent and distinctive enough, but most illustration work isn\u2019t going to qualify.<\/p>\n

Those who are smart enough to acknowledge that \u201cpassing similarity\u201d does not violate copyright often try to claim that the crime happens when content is used to train AIs. Early on, a lot of people thought that AI was just collaging together pieces of the work in its training set. These people have clearly never tried to make a collage that didn\u2019t look like a collage, but they have a lot to say about AI images that include \u201csignatures\u201d in languages not known to humankind. None of it reveals much intellectual capacity on the part of the speaker.<\/p>\n

The \u201ccollage hypothesis\u201d inspired many to argue that AI violates IP rights by downloading images. I mean, we already know these people haven\u2019t bothered to learn how things that are actually relevant to their jobs work. Did you really think they\u2019d understand web browsers? If this claim were true, we\u2019d have to go back to the days of text-only internet.<\/p>\n

The ones who are smart enough to clear the porn from their caches have another argument, and this is one that some legal experts seem to think might work. It basically claims that it\u2019s including the art in training data that violates IP. They usually cite a case that Google lost over its book archive.<\/p>\n

\"Katie,<\/a>
Katie, 8-year-old<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I have my doubts though. Google was posting sections of books that were way larger than is generally considered fair use, and they were making it available to the public. AI doesn\u2019t even keep the images is scans, it just collects data from them. The thing that goes into the training database is just a bunch of code with no resemblance to the original content. If scanning a file and collecting data from it is an IP violation, say goodbye to your virus scanner, your spam filter, and several other tools you\u2019re probably going to miss.<\/p>\n

Even if the training argument holds up in court, it might not be relevant for long. DeepMind recently announced that it\u2019s experimenting with developing AI that learns through experience without a training set. For any applications that still require training sets, Wikimedia and Google are working on building public domain datasets for AI researchers to use.<\/p>\n

The last argument that you\u2019ll hear is that AI is going to destroy human creativity itself. That\u2019s kind of a big one, so I\u2019m going to save it for a follow-up article so this doesn\u2019t get long enough to qualify as a \u201cthink piece.\u201d I\u2019m not a member of the Chattering Imbeciles Union and I don\u2019t do scab work.<\/p>\n

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